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Topic: The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste
Posted by: Bassam Mahfouz
Date/Time: 02/11/11 16:01:00

Perhaps Cllr Taylor and the Conservative Group should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

How dare they tell the people of Ealing such a bare faced lie about their position on this issue?!

As an avid recycler and gardener I do appreciate the issues that people have raised on this forum and elsewhere and I understand that residents, genuine in their beliefs will lobby me and fellow councillors on the issues.

However, the position of the Tories beggars belief.  They have had ample opportunities to debate this issue and to set out their position on it. Only they don’t know what they want.

This petition is both disingenuous and proves their muddled thinking and I’ll explain why:

•         The Tories decided to “call in” the Cabinet decision to return to a charged garden waste collection, itself a result of the deep cuts of £85m that we are facing as a council.

•         However at the Call in meeting, the Conservative Shadow Cabinet member Cllr Young (former chair of this panel), chose not ask for the whole decision to be rescinded and reconsidered (his right and he could have taken it to a vote). Instead his position was to ask whether every household could have the additional option of having their garden waste collected from the pink sacks that used to be so popular in the past!.  The minutes of the meeting speak for themselves; remember it’s a cross-party committee.
Here’s a key line from it:

Resolved: (i) That the Committee unanimously agrees to uphold the decisions taken by the Cabinet at its meeting on 13th September, 2011
Full minutes can be found here: http://www2.ealing.gov.uk/ealing3/export/sites/ealingweb/services/council/committees/agendas_minutes_reports/scrutiny/overview_and_scrutiny/24may2011-15may2012/_03_nov_2011./Item_5_Minutes_06.10.11_.doc
(Item 8 – page 5 onwards)

The meeting was described as “The Most Pathetic Call In in Ealing’s history”. (For your information this unanimous decision as recorded by the clerk to the meeting, involved Tory Cllrs Costello, Chapman, Dabrowska, Grant and Sumner).  Cllr Millican was also in attendance but unfortunately Cllr Taylor, who was characteristically quiet at the previous meeting was missing in action on this one and so obviously wasn’t brought up to speed with what his colleagues had done.

• At the last Full Council meeting in October, The Tories had a second chance to redeem themselves, stand by their principles and ask for the decision to be rescinded.  Again the opportunity went begging for some decisive leadership. What we got was a half baked motion which simply asked the council not to go fortnightly on rubbish and recycling: something only Labour made a commitment to in our manifesto put to local residents at the last council elections.

•         Then last week I received an e-mail rant from the Tory Finance Spokesman on the council.  Part of it was a ‘back of a fag packet’ list of things the Tories would change were they to be in charge of the Town Hall. Was Garden Charges on that list? Of course not, if only they had the guts!

So, as you will see, the reality is that for all the talk and rhetoric, the Conservatives have had the chance not once, not twice, but three times to take some real action on garden waste charges but on each occasion they have shown residents their true colours.

The sad reality is that the Tories like Millican and Young have bottled making the decision because they know that if they did not accept these changes they would have to make one or more of the following choices.  I have asked them which one the Conservatives would be inflicting on the people of Ealing... surprisingly despite having had weeks to think it over they have been remarkably silent on this front. I won’t hold my breath for an honest answer.

These are the kinds of things that the Conservatives would have to look at doing if they do not take this saving:

•   Fortnightly collection from compulsory wheelie bins for rubbish and recycling

•   Reduce street cleaning frequencies to once in every 3 weeks on residential roads

•   Have a minimal tree management service and have no graffiti and fly tip removals

•   Closure of all our leisure centres

•   Switch off of all street lights

The people of Ealing deserve to know where they stand on this issue because they certainly don’t stand by their word.


Entire Thread
TopicDate PostedPosted By
Garden tax petition01/11/11 08:58:00 Phil Taylor
   Re:Garden tax petition01/11/11 09:31:00 James de Vivenot
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition01/11/11 09:50:00 Nigel Brooks
   The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste02/11/11 16:01:00 Bassam Mahfouz
      Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste02/11/11 17:47:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste02/11/11 18:54:00 George Knox
      Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste02/11/11 23:02:00 Colm Costello
         Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 11:19:00 Bassam Mahfouz
            Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 12:44:00 Tony Sleep
            Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 12:49:00 Albertina McNeill
            Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 16:25:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 14:20:00 Tony Colliver
         Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 15:52:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 16:22:00 Nigel Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 17:34:00 Rosa Popham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste03/11/11 23:35:00 Albertina McNeill
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste04/11/11 00:21:00 Philippa Bond
                      Garden Waste04/11/11 16:14:00 George Knox
                        Re: Garden Waste04/11/11 21:28:00 Bassam Mahfouz
                           Re:Re: Garden Waste04/11/11 23:48:00 Colm Costello
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Truth about the Conservative Position on Garden Waste05/11/11 00:05:00 Albertina McNeill
                         Garden Waste05/11/11 11:20:00 George Knox
                           Re: Garden Waste05/11/11 23:04:00 Bassam Mahfouz
   Re:Garden tax petition05/11/11 23:55:00 Jean F Fernandez
      DIY Green (4x4) Urban Tractor Squads needed06/11/11 17:33:00 Jim Wong
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 09:36:00 carol jackson
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 10:15:00 Nigel Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 12:59:00 Albertina McNeill
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 11:22:00 Tony Sleep
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 11:51:00 Rosa Popham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 12:47:00 carol jackson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition08/11/11 00:04:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition11/11/11 20:05:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition07/11/11 12:58:00 Albertina McNeill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition08/11/11 02:00:00 Rosa Popham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition08/11/11 08:46:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition08/11/11 11:20:00 Rosa Popham
                     Re:Tetra Pak and other Liquid Food & Drink Cartons08/11/11 14:16:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Tetra Pak and other Liquid Food & Drink Cartons08/11/11 15:50:00 Nigel Brooks
                        Re Polystyrene08/11/11 15:54:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re Polystyrene08/11/11 19:22:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re Polystyrene08/11/11 21:45:00 Nigel Brooks
                                 Garden Waste FAQs08/11/11 22:08:00 Bassam Mahfouz
                                    Re:Garden Waste FAQs08/11/11 22:30:00 Colm Costello
                                    Re:Garden Waste FAQs09/11/11 03:33:00 Tony Sleep
                                       Re:Re:Garden Waste FAQs09/11/11 11:32:00 Vlod Barchuk
                                          Re:Re:Re:Garden Waste FAQs09/11/11 12:24:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re Polystyrene08/11/11 23:34:00 Albertina McNeill
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re Polystyrene09/11/11 13:35:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Polystyrene10/11/11 09:11:00 Albertina McNeill
                                       Re Polystyrene10/11/11 11:39:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Garden tax petition09/11/11 09:31:00 Andy Horridge
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition09/11/11 12:47:00 Nigel Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Mahfouz, where are your targets?09/11/11 23:52:00 Rosa Popham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Mahfouz, where are your targets?14/11/11 03:12:00 Tony Sleep
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Mahfouz, where are your targets?14/11/11 08:02:00 Phil Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Mahfouz, where are your targets?14/11/11 14:18:00 Tony Sleep
   Re:Garden tax petition10/11/11 13:01:00 Rosa Popham
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition10/11/11 15:04:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition10/11/11 15:42:00 Rosa Popham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition10/11/11 15:55:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Garden tax petition14/11/11 13:36:00 Andy Horridge
   Re:Garden tax petition hits 800 online21/11/11 09:34:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition hits 800 online21/11/11 10:56:00 Nigel Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition hits 800 online21/11/11 17:24:00 Andy Horridge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition hits 800 online21/11/11 17:46:00 Phil Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition hits 800 online21/11/11 21:31:00 Nigel Brooks
   Re:Garden tax online petition over 1,00025/11/11 20:31:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Re:Garden tax online petition over 1,00028/11/11 16:02:00 George Knox
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax online petition over 1,00028/11/11 16:17:00 Colm Costello
   Re:Garden tax petition29/11/11 12:15:00 William J Malmet
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition29/11/11 14:18:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition29/11/11 15:14:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Garden tax petition29/11/11 16:56:00 Tony Sleep
         Re:Re:Re:Garden tax petition30/11/11 11:22:00 Nigel Brooks

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