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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code
Posted by: Gavin Gilbert
Date/Time: 02/02/10 23:47:00

Under Section 30 Road Traffic Act 1988 "It is an offence for a person to ride a cycle on a road or other public place when unfit to ride through drink or drugs - that is to say - is under the influence of a drink or a drug to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the cycle"

However this is a subjective rather than a measured test so there is no need for a breath, blood or urine sample to be requested or submitted.

Turning to 'speeding' on a bicycle... the antique offence of 'riding furiously', which originally applied to horse riders, has to all intents been replaced by the offences of Careless or Dangerous Cycling (which one is again a subjective judgement, as it is for motor vehicles).

There are few places where speed limits apply to cyclists - Royal Parks such as Richmond being the prime local example - but on the general highway the consensus is that speed limits DO NOT apply to cyclists.

Speeding is dealt with under Section 81 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, which specifies, “drive a motor vehicle”; the act then goes on to define ‘motor vehicle’ as a mechanically propelled vehicle - ergo, not a bicycle.

However it obvious that the Careless or Dangerous Cycling offence could still apply. Take the circumstances where a cyclist was doing 30mph (a reasonable speed for a racing cyclist) down Acton High Street during the evening peak in the rain. Within the speed limit for the road, but given the increased stopping distances of a bicycle over a motor car, unreasonable and potentially careless. It's not something I would want to do.

Getting a License endorsement for any of the above; there's minor loopholes where points could be applied (Part II, Schedule 2 of the RTRA) without the offender even holding a driving license. However it's exceptionally rare for this to be applied and even then it's only normally used for minors involved in car theft. There's clearly more appropriate legislation for the courts to use.

As for running red lights, cycling on the pavement etc - everyone is correct in stating the highway code applies to us, and equally correct in stating that we are forced into this behaviour by poor road layout and stupid half-blind motorists. And stupid half-blind, brain-dead pedestrians ;)


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A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 07:17:00 J Smith
   Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 10:37:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 11:09:00 J Smith
         Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 15:19:00 David Eales
         Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 18:20:00 Tony Price
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code29/01/10 22:59:00 J Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code30/01/10 00:48:00 Tony Price
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code30/01/10 01:06:00 Alan Brainsby
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code30/01/10 12:42:00 J Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code01/02/10 12:22:00 Alan Clark
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code01/02/10 13:07:00 J Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code01/02/10 13:13:00 Peter Chadburn
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 14:40:00 Sam Salisbury
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 14:51:00 Tony Price
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 16:47:00 Chris Bell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 19:50:00 Tony Price
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 20:49:00 Chris Bell
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 22:10:00 Peter Chadburn
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 22:55:00 Tony Price
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 23:21:00 Peter Chadburn
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 23:31:00 Tony Price
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 23:55:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code02/02/10 23:47:00 Gavin Gilbert
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 00:00:00 Tony Price
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 06:37:00 J Smith
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 12:07:00 J Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code07/02/10 12:33:00 Chris Calvi-Freeman
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code08/02/10 21:36:00 Alan Clark
   Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 08:10:00 Chris Veasey
      Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 09:05:00 G Lord
         Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 09:27:00 Alan Clark
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 09:36:00 G Lord
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 09:38:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 09:52:00 G Lord
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 12:07:00 Tony Price
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 12:08:00 Tony Price
         Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 11:58:00 Tony Price
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 12:12:00 G Lord
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code03/02/10 12:36:00 Tony Price
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code07/02/10 12:50:00 J Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code07/02/10 16:12:00 Alan Brainsby
   Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code07/02/10 18:16:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code08/02/10 00:23:00 Alan Brainsby
         Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code08/02/10 16:57:00 J Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code08/02/10 17:09:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 12:41:00 Gavin Gilbert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 15:39:00 Peter Chadburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 18:57:00 Gavin Gilbert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 19:45:00 J Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 22:57:00 Gavin Gilbert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code09/02/10 23:58:00 Peter Chadburn
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 06:47:00 Gavin Gilbert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 08:17:00 Alan Clark
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 08:43:00 Andy Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 10:18:00 Alan Clark
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 10:27:00 G Lord
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 10:39:00 David Eales
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 10:47:00 Peter Chadburn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 11:02:00 G Lord
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 11:26:00 Alan Clark
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 11:40:00 G Lord
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 11:50:00 Peter Chadburn
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 11:53:00 Alan Clark
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 12:03:00 G Lord
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 13:00:00 J Smith
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 14:48:00 J Smith
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 14:59:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 15:42:00 G Lord
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 15:50:00 David Eales
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 15:54:00 J Smith
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code10/02/10 22:32:00 Tony Price
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 09:30:00 J Smith
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 09:45:00 G Lord
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 09:50:00 J Smith
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 10:14:00 G Lord
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 10:22:00 J Smith
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 11:58:00 Tony Price
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 12:58:00 J Smith
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 13:26:00 Alan Clark
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 14:40:00 J Smith
                                                                                       :Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code11/02/10 22:31:00 Beth Hales
                                                                                          Re::Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code12/02/10 09:32:00 J Smith
                                                                                             Re:Re::Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code12/02/10 10:43:00 Alan Clark
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re::Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code12/02/10 14:34:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:A Question About Cyclists and the Highway Code12/02/10 16:29:00 Alan Clark
                                                                                                      Re:Registration of cycles21/02/10 17:51:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Registration of cycles21/02/10 18:57:00 J Smith
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles21/02/10 19:27:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles24/02/10 10:01:00 G Lord
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles24/02/10 10:20:00 David Eales
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles24/02/10 17:36:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles24/02/10 20:51:00 David Eales
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles25/02/10 00:07:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles24/02/10 20:59:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles25/02/10 00:19:00 G Lord
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles25/02/10 00:49:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Registration of cycles25/02/10 10:33:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                                              question about drivers and the highway code13/03/10 11:31:00 Alan Clark
                                                                                                                                 Re:question about drivers and the highway code13/03/10 13:34:00 Tony Price
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:question about drivers and the highway code20/03/10 09:29:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law02/04/10 07:50:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law02/04/10 18:13:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law03/04/10 13:50:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law04/04/10 12:43:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law04/04/10 23:55:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law05/04/10 00:39:00 Peter Chadburn
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law05/04/10 13:27:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law05/04/10 17:12:00 Peter Chadburn
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law05/04/10 19:17:00 J Smith
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:question about Cyclists and the Law06/04/10 15:47:00 D Fox

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