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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput
Posted by: Chris Bell
Date/Time: 04/09/09 22:44:00

The relative costs of running the two are generally as stated because once working they are so much more reliable and do not need continuous attention in situ. Most administration can be done from a comfortable seat almost anywhere, often using no more than a palm keyboard, if not done automatically.
Administration is generally logical and not too difficult, although there will be some effort required by existing Microsoft Only administration staff.
Microsoft are happy to make a huge loss supporting highly visible organizations and schools because they gain so much from the publicity. There is no charge, and no PR budget, with Free Open Source Software, much of it written by Universities and large organizations and made available to the community. Some is also included complete with the relevant free licenses within Microsoft products.
I have spent several years trying to persuade Ealing to help organize a series of lectures for new users, we had a qualified Microsoft lecturer ready to provide a series of talks and comparisons, but he recently gave up waiting and left for New Zealand. I have also tried to organize a practical Community Club where new users could learn without fear of breaking something important, and have a stack of IBM servers and a CISCO router donated for the purpose by Imperial College, yet it took well over a year to convince Ealing Adult Learning that we were not talking about playing computer games.
You mention netbooks, but do you mean the tiny palm size notebooks? The ones I have seen have been designed for schoolkids and have very few resources. Standard computer and laptop manufacturers can churn out very cheap identical standard boxes because they are charged very little for bulk OEM licenses without the full software kit because M$ make more money later once users are hooked in. Many people have tried to purchase the hardware without the M$ Tax, but are either charged more or refused completely. Most people either wipe the drive and re-install or build their own. I know many professionals and shop owners who use Free Open Source Software to rescue customer files, repair and then test the faulty equipment, and say that M$ is not good but they can not spare the time to show their customers the alternatives. For most customers it is just
Fear
Uncertainty
Doubt
Otherwise known as FUD.


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Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput18/05/09 08:24:00 Eric Alan Leach
   Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput18/05/09 15:44:00 Libby Kemp
      Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 08:29:00 Andy Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 10:32:00 Libby Kemp
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 11:01:00 Diane Gill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 11:14:00 Eric Alan Leach
                  Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 14:18:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 16:07:00 George Knox
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 16:14:00 Sara Nathan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 17:27:00 George Knox
                           Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 19:17:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/05/09 21:38:00 Richard Jennings
                                 Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput20/05/09 10:27:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput20/05/09 12:24:00 Arthur Breens
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput23/05/09 09:23:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput27/05/09 13:10:00 Chris Bell
   Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput27/05/09 12:06:00 Chris Bell
      Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput29/05/09 06:22:00 Eric Alan Leach
         Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput29/05/09 09:53:00 Chris Bell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput30/05/09 13:11:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput30/05/09 13:15:00 Eric Alan Leach
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput30/05/09 19:07:00 Chris Bell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput01/06/09 18:33:00 Andy Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput02/06/09 07:08:00 Eric Alan Leach
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput02/06/09 07:46:00 Chris Bell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput03/06/09 17:39:00 Eric Alan Leach
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput07/06/09 08:40:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput07/06/09 08:57:00 Chris Bell
                                    Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput07/06/09 15:37:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput07/06/09 21:52:00 Chris Bell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput09/06/09 16:58:00 Penny Crocker
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput09/06/09 17:41:00 Dawn Ryder
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput09/06/09 23:26:00 Chris Bell
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 09:53:00 Niall Connolly
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 10:51:00 Chris Bell
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 12:02:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 12:46:00 Niall Connolly
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 13:34:00 Chris Bell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 14:27:00 Dawn Ryder
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 14:50:00 Niall Connolly
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput11/06/09 07:16:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 15:22:00 Chris Bell
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 16:18:00 Niall Connolly
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 21:52:00 Chris Bell
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 14:37:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 15:59:00 Niall Connolly
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput10/06/09 12:41:00 Chris Bell
   Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/06/09 14:02:00 Libby Kemp
      Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/06/09 14:15:00 Niall Connolly
         Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput19/06/09 16:48:00 Eric Alan Leach
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput28/06/09 11:27:00 Eric Alan Leach
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput28/06/09 17:14:00 Eric Alan Leach
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput29/06/09 00:42:00 Eric Alan Leach
   Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 13:58:00 Niall Connolly
      Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 16:05:00 Eric Alan Leach
         Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 16:24:00 Niall Connolly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 17:01:00 Chris Bell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 17:29:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 17:35:00 Niall Connolly
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 22:44:00 Chris Bell
         Re:Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 16:33:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:Ealing Council Web Site Goes Kaput04/09/09 16:41:00 Chris Bell

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