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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax
Posted by: Michael Brandt
Date/Time: 10/09/11 08:58:00

I don't support the reduction of the 50p tax level, and nor do I believe there are just a few hundred thousand in that tax category. More like a few hundred thousand honest enough to declare it. Otherwise we would not have  so many buying £2m properties and then spending another £1m refitting it!

As for my poor quote, this was exactly the argument used by the council to justify the CPZ and visitor permit hike. Well reported at the time, still difficult to understand.
The assumption that anyone who lives in a house in Ealing is rich is an assumption too far. There was a time pre- management consultants and lawyers, when ordinary people in ordinary jobs, shop keepers, teachers, tube drivers lived in Ealing. Many of these people are still here albeit at the retirement end of the scale. They cannot be described as either rich or abundantly affluent.

Social Services, housing are all paid for by council tax payers, how many of those same payers ever use a fraction of the services? Very few. It's there in case but I don't see too many complaining about paying for stuff they may never come to need.
It all balances out.

My garden is smaller than those of the local council estate. Are you saying that I produce more garden waste than them? Fact is most of us have small spaces and only so much can be recycled, composted and so on.  Go over the top trying to accomodate all the waste and you are in the realms of vermin, wasp nests and disease, not really practicable when one lives in an urban area with surrounding neighbours who may have children, pets and so on.

There is no need to come up with constructive alternatives. It ain't broke so it does not need fixing. This is one of the few areas that had finally been got right after 2 decades of poor contracts, deals and ultimately service.
Ealing has come from one of the worst recycling boroughs to one of the best.  Not perfect but better than most .

Parking is the same.  Promises and assurances were made but all have been deleted and the whole thing turned into a money making venture. Not what it was intended as.  I know, I was there at the inception and did put in much constructive input with several others.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 06:46:00 Phil Taylor
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 11:16:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 11:57:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 12:03:00 Una Dennedy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 12:23:00 Penny Crocker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 12:54:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 13:36:00 Sue Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 15:10:00 Eric Alan Leach
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 15:32:00 Nigel Brooks
                           Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 16:39:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 17:04:00 David Whitelam
                                 Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 17:30:00 Michael Brandt
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax08/09/11 21:41:00 Kathy Murch
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 00:35:00 Jean F Fernandez
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 09:16:00 Graham Weeks
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 15:48:00 MIchael Cass
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 11:10:00 Ben Owen
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 11:38:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 13:30:00 Rosa Popham
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 13:53:00 Penny Crocker
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 15:46:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 11:52:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 16:46:00 Ian D. Richardson
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 18:48:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 19:59:00 Michael Brandt
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 21:21:00 Ben Owen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 08:58:00 Michael Brandt
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 21:57:00 Jean F Fernandez
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax09/09/11 23:36:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 05:28:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 08:28:00 Ian D. Richardson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 09:03:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 10:19:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 17:24:00 Michael Brandt
                        Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax10/09/11 18:40:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax11/09/11 21:37:00 Bassam Mahfouz
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 00:35:00 Nigel Brooks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 18:34:00 Rosa Popham
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 12:57:00 Jason Stacey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax14/09/11 07:26:00 Colm Costello
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax14/09/11 14:32:00 Nigel Brooks
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 12:16:00 Jools Lewis
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 13:27:00 Eric Alan Leach
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 14:38:00 Mark Kehoe
         Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 14:43:00 George Knox
            Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 18:35:00 Rosa Popham
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax12/09/11 20:51:00 Jim Louten
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax13/09/11 10:31:00 Jean F Fernandez
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax13/09/11 11:42:00 James de Vivenot
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax13/09/11 11:59:00 Nigel Brooks
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax13/09/11 22:52:00 Jean F Fernandez
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax14/09/11 10:38:00 Robert Darke
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax14/09/11 13:39:00 Michael Brandt
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax14/09/11 13:40:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 10:43:00 Una Dennedy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 11:48:00 Jennifer Moyse
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 11:57:00 Ian D. Richardson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 12:00:00 Charles Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 12:42:00 Faith Wardle
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 13:22:00 Graham Weeks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 13:54:00 Nigel Brooks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 15:08:00 Jean F Fernandez
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 15:27:00 Jean F Fernandez
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 15:52:00 Graham Weeks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 16:17:00 Harold John Ward
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 17:26:00 Faith Wardle
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 18:27:00 Andy Horridge
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 18:37:00 Michael Brandt
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax15/09/11 22:31:00 Nigel Brooks
   Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax16/09/11 07:54:00 Ruth Goldsborough
      Re:Re:Labour's new £1 million garden tax16/09/11 11:06:00 Jean F Fernandez
   Conservatives call in Labour's garden tax20/09/11 12:54:00 Phil Taylor

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