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Topic: Re:Re:Re:To John.
Posted by: John Holt
Date/Time: 19/04/11 17:05:00


Nigel,

I get the feeling you're jealous because you were a councillor in the days before allowances were given and so you resent the fact that councillors now get small allowances to help compensate them for the expenses they face in carrying out their duties.I think you underestimate the work involved in being a councillor in a London borough.By the way Parish councillors STILL don't get allowances because they have very little work to do in comparison.So I don't think you know what you're talking about here.
I think it's important to emphasise that councillors don't get paid for what they do.They only get allowances and there are not many candidates queueing up to do it because for most people it involves financial loss because it takes up so much time it stops you doing other things, like earning money to pay bills or pay into a pension pot for instance.Many councillors who work full time negotiate reduced working hours with their employer and incur a reduced salary as a result and the allowances don't make up for that loss in many cases.
It is also a commitment to sign up for 4 years and for most councillors involves 20-30 hours per week spread over days,evenings and weekends - i.e.a totally different league to the ad-hoc voluntary stuff you say you've done.MPs on the other hand get paid for what they do and get allowances on top.

So I strongly refute your cynical nonsense.You won't volunteer any time to save your library when it's needed and yet you expect others to donate 20-30 hours per week for four years with no compensation.Many ordinary people would find that a barrier to being a councillor that they simply could not overcome and that would be a bad thing for democracy. You are a self-righteous hypocrite who spurts ridiculous right-wing propaganda borne of ignorance. It is you who has no idea about'balance'.No-one goes into being a councillor for 'potential earning time' and being a councillor nowadays is a hell of a lot more than volunteering. It's a hefty commitment for 4 years and those that go into it from all parties are committed to what they do and that should be recognised. There's nothing clever about cynicism such as yours. 



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Libraries under threat23/03/11 19:26:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:21:00 J Smith
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:32:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 09:19:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 12:26:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 19:22:00 Nick Jenkins
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 22:41:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:02:00 John Holt
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:52:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 17:33:00 Nigel Brooks
            To John.25/03/11 19:20:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:To John.25/03/11 21:01:00 John Holt
                  Re:Re:To John.25/03/11 22:27:00 Nigel Brooks
                     To John.26/03/11 09:49:00 George Knox
                     Re:Re:Re:To John.19/04/11 17:05:00 John Holt
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 10:45:00 Jools Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:37:00 Marc Races
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:47:00 Marc Races
   Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:23:00 Maggie Tomlinson
      Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:32:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 17:39:00 Maggie Tomlinson
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 23:59:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions27/03/11 22:09:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 19:06:00 Luther Brown
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 20:53:00 Peter Chadburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:37:00 Luther Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:14:00 Ed Yelland
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:04:00 Phil Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:12:00 Ed Yelland
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:20:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:52:00 Luther Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:53:00 Luther Brown
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:50:00 Luther Brown
   Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April30/03/11 12:47:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April02/04/11 22:24:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April03/04/11 00:53:00 Peter Chadburn
   Perivale library consultation tonight06/04/11 08:55:00 Phil Taylor
   Hanwell library consultation meeting tonight12/04/11 09:31:00 Phil Taylor
   Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 11:56:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 13:03:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:20:00 Walter Wyeth
            Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:27:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:49:00 Marc Races
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 11:28:00 Arthur Breens
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 20:21:00 Marc Races
   Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:44:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
         Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:17:00 Colm Costello
            Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:47:00 Ben Owen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 00:28:00 Colm Costello
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 09:52:00 Eric Alan Leach
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 11:40:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:01:00 Eric Alan Leach
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:10:00 Peter Chadburn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow23/04/11 22:30:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow24/04/11 09:58:00 Ben Owen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow25/04/11 15:02:00 Marc Races
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:39:00 Marc Races
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:51:00 Peter Chadburn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
   Today is the last day of the libraries consultation03/05/11 13:00:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 22:49:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
         Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 23:01:00 Marc Races
            Re:Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation09/05/11 10:46:00 Sara Nathan
   3,000 responses!12/05/11 15:43:00 Marc Races
      Re:3,000 responses!13/05/11 08:29:00 Marc Races

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