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Topic: Re:To John.
Posted by: John Holt
Date/Time: 25/03/11 21:01:00

Well done Nigel! Iím so glad to hear youíre doing more for your community than simply standing on your high horse! However, what are you going to do for Northfields Library is the specific question?† Come on now, no more sanctimonious excuses about what youíve done in the past and about how hard you work now! Youíre nothing special and yes, we all do that. Letís get straight to the point. Will you put yourself up now for volunteering in Northfields Library or do you expect someone else to do it for you?† You should listen to Eric Pickles and then youíll get a measure of exactly how much effort is needed from the keyboard cynics. So, no more excuses and down to action Nigel, big society and all eh?

So you put yourself up for council 20 years ago, so why not now? Councillors get allowances not pay Nigel.† If we expect them to bear the brunt of all the expenses they face then I suppose we can only expect the ranks to be filled with the retired and the rich. Hardly representative? But some might think itís good that this diverse borough is restricted to being represented by such a narrow group of society I suppose. Small section of society, narrow-minded, conservative with a small Ďcí agenda perhaps? Maybe you have always been well-off enough to divert some of your potential earning time to voluntarism? Wonderful Nigel, but I think not everybody will be in your fortunate position.

I, personally, think itís a good idea to have a mix of people represent us, we canít have councillors who are all drawn from the white, balding, male, elderly, middle-class, middle-age spread ranks can we?

Younger people have difficulty giving up valuable earning time to Ďlocal politics and voluntarismí. My partner is a councillor, but not in this borough, but I live here. Councillors that I know dedicate most evenings, most weekends and much more too and have to stump up for all associated expenses themselves, and it comes at a cost to social life, earning potential, family life and leisure time as well as real financial costs. My girlfriend and I have a hefty mortgage to pay for many years to come, and maybe soon some day, a family to raise, and just maybe we can shed a light onto what itís like for people of our age group, our aspirations, experiences and circumstances, but you seem to want to price ordinary people like us out of being able to represent ordinary people like us. I hope not. Nobody seriously makes money out of being a local councillor so let's not pretend they do and let's keep it open to people from all ranks of society, eh? Please?

Susan, my name is John Holt fyi and YES I'm real and I live in Ealing!


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Libraries under threat23/03/11 19:26:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:21:00 J Smith
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:32:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 09:19:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 12:26:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 19:22:00 Nick Jenkins
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 22:41:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:02:00 John Holt
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:52:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 17:33:00 Nigel Brooks
            To John.25/03/11 19:20:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:To John.25/03/11 21:01:00 John Holt
                  Re:Re:To John.25/03/11 22:27:00 Nigel Brooks
                     To John.26/03/11 09:49:00 George Knox
                     Re:Re:Re:To John.19/04/11 17:05:00 John Holt
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 10:45:00 Jools Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:37:00 Marc Races
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:47:00 Marc Races
   Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:23:00 Maggie Tomlinson
      Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:32:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 17:39:00 Maggie Tomlinson
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 23:59:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions27/03/11 22:09:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 19:06:00 Luther Brown
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 20:53:00 Peter Chadburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:37:00 Luther Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:14:00 Ed Yelland
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:04:00 Phil Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:12:00 Ed Yelland
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:20:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:52:00 Luther Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:53:00 Luther Brown
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:50:00 Luther Brown
   Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April30/03/11 12:47:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April02/04/11 22:24:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April03/04/11 00:53:00 Peter Chadburn
   Perivale library consultation tonight06/04/11 08:55:00 Phil Taylor
   Hanwell library consultation meeting tonight12/04/11 09:31:00 Phil Taylor
   Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 11:56:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 13:03:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:20:00 Walter Wyeth
            Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:27:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:49:00 Marc Races
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 11:28:00 Arthur Breens
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 20:21:00 Marc Races
   Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:44:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
         Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:17:00 Colm Costello
            Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:47:00 Ben Owen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 00:28:00 Colm Costello
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 09:52:00 Eric Alan Leach
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 11:40:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:01:00 Eric Alan Leach
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:10:00 Peter Chadburn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow23/04/11 22:30:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow24/04/11 09:58:00 Ben Owen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow25/04/11 15:02:00 Marc Races
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:39:00 Marc Races
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:51:00 Peter Chadburn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
   Today is the last day of the libraries consultation03/05/11 13:00:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 22:49:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
         Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 23:01:00 Marc Races
            Re:Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation09/05/11 10:46:00 Sara Nathan
   3,000 responses!12/05/11 15:43:00 Marc Races
      Re:3,000 responses!13/05/11 08:29:00 Marc Races

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