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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat
Posted by: Peter Chadburn
Date/Time: 24/03/11 12:26:00

There is still much further to go there.† We are still carrying too many expensive people in the back office and management hierarchy who donít want to be out front dealing with people.

Phil what you have said above is quite right and shows much of what i believe is wrong. In the NHS we do not need more more or privatisation or markets, but we need to see the operations of organisations simplified. Not with Birtist internal markets but by stripping away management of things that do not require management. A hospital needs certain supplies so therefore a standing order for sheets, materials, etc.. Look at the operation of hospitals 40 years ago and you will see far fewer management posts. To bring the efficiency of the private sector to the public sector is a mantra that means that you end up paying more money to more managers to do less. The law of unintended consequences is very true and we need get away from consultants and get stuck in to realise that the public sector waste has gone up dramatically because of these unintended consequences. Thatcher and others meant well but the reality is that the public sector has been bloated very much by some of the policies that were meant to bring efficiency. Phil you always like to discuss ideas and things and i wonder whether from your experience of council operations and maybe after discussions with a couple of older timer council people you think that there is some mileage in these points? I feel that the current coalition has a big job to do but we will see services cut rather than efficiency improvements.


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Libraries under threat23/03/11 19:26:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:21:00 J Smith
   Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 08:32:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 09:19:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 12:26:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 19:22:00 Nick Jenkins
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat24/03/11 22:41:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:02:00 John Holt
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 15:52:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat25/03/11 17:33:00 Nigel Brooks
            To John.25/03/11 19:20:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:To John.25/03/11 21:01:00 John Holt
                  Re:Re:To John.25/03/11 22:27:00 Nigel Brooks
                     To John.26/03/11 09:49:00 George Knox
                     Re:Re:Re:To John.19/04/11 17:05:00 John Holt
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 10:45:00 Jools Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:37:00 Marc Races
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Libraries under threat08/05/11 12:47:00 Marc Races
   Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:23:00 Maggie Tomlinson
      Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 16:32:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 17:39:00 Maggie Tomlinson
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions26/03/11 23:59:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions27/03/11 22:09:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 19:06:00 Luther Brown
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions28/03/11 20:53:00 Peter Chadburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:37:00 Luther Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:14:00 Ed Yelland
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 09:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:04:00 Phil Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:12:00 Ed Yelland
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:20:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:52:00 Luther Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 10:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:53:00 Luther Brown
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Vounteers Cannot Be Used in Labraries Because of Unions29/03/11 20:50:00 Luther Brown
   Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April30/03/11 12:47:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April02/04/11 22:24:00 Phil Taylor
         Re:Re:Northfields Library 11am Saturday 2nd April03/04/11 00:53:00 Peter Chadburn
   Perivale library consultation tonight06/04/11 08:55:00 Phil Taylor
   Hanwell library consultation meeting tonight12/04/11 09:31:00 Phil Taylor
   Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 11:56:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight13/04/11 13:03:00 Peter Chadburn
         Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:20:00 Walter Wyeth
            Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:27:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight16/04/11 14:49:00 Marc Races
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 11:28:00 Arthur Breens
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northfield library consultation meeting tonight19/04/11 20:21:00 Marc Races
   Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:44:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow20/04/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
         Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:17:00 Colm Costello
            Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow21/04/11 23:47:00 Ben Owen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 00:28:00 Colm Costello
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 09:52:00 Eric Alan Leach
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 11:40:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:01:00 Eric Alan Leach
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow22/04/11 12:10:00 Peter Chadburn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow23/04/11 22:30:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow24/04/11 09:58:00 Ben Owen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow25/04/11 15:02:00 Marc Races
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:27:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:32:00 Peter Chadburn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:39:00 Marc Races
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 20:51:00 Peter Chadburn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt Leisure Centre Library consultation meeting tomorrow08/05/11 22:58:00 Marc Races
   Today is the last day of the libraries consultation03/05/11 13:00:00 Phil Taylor
      Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 22:49:00 Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager
         Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation08/05/11 23:01:00 Marc Races
            Re:Re:Re:Today is the last day of the libraries consultation09/05/11 10:46:00 Sara Nathan
   3,000 responses!12/05/11 15:43:00 Marc Races
      Re:3,000 responses!13/05/11 08:29:00 Marc Races

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