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Topic: 20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death
Posted by: Dominik Klimowski
Date/Time: 23/01/25 09:11:00

Having driven from Ealing to Kingston hospital recently, I experienced a 20mph journey pretty much all the way. It took a bit of getting used to, but the steady pace meant that I still got there in good time. I have also gone along that route by bus, and although it feels slow, the journey does not take that much longer. This is mainly because the alternative has always been more ‘stop/start’, ie: drive faster, stop at traffic, drive faster, stop at lights, drive faster, stop at traffic.

The average speed limit in (outer) London is 20mph. In central London it’s slower. So the 20mph speed limit is in keeping with this.

Looking at the speed limit from the point of view of everyone outside a motor vehicle, 20mph is very fast. From a safety point of view, it makes sense to have it at 20mph, because:

At 20mph there is a 2.5% chance of survival if hit. At 30mph this jumps up to 20%.

The braking distance is halved at 20mph compared to 30mph.

Some people say ‘well pedestrians should be educated to cross the road safely’, or ‘if people didn’t wear their headphones or dress in black they wouldn’t get hit’

My answer to that is, as a driver, I don’t see it as my job to punish people by killing or injuring them. If it’s a scientific fact that there is much less chance of death or serious injury if I drive at 20mph, then I’m not prepared to argue with that.


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20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 11:06:00 Paul James
   Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 11:28:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 12:56:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 14:13:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 14:15:00 Peter Yale
   Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 17:39:00 Vlod Barchuk
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 17:59:00 peter king
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:33:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:44:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:35:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 23:06:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...19/01/25 10:51:00 peter king
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...19/01/25 11:03:00 Peter Yale
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 14:12:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 14:35:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:22:00 Ben Owen
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:33:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:59:00 Peter Yale
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 22:58:00 Ben Owen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 08:53:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 09:44:00 Peter Yale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:37:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 09:41:00 Vlod Barchuk
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:34:00 Ben Owen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:41:00 Peter Yale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:03:00 Ben Owen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:57:00 Peter Yale
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:48:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:14:00 Ben Owen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:50:00 Simon Hayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 18:09:00 Ben Owen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 20:51:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 21:17:00 Peter Yale
                                          Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 06:15:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 09:32:00 Peter Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 10:32:00 Paul James
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 12:13:00 N V Brooks
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 15:15:00 Peter Yale
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 16:42:00 Paul James
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 17:56:00 N V Brooks
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 13:55:00 Paul James
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 14:03:00 N V Brooks
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 14:53:00 Paul James
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 15:03:00 N V Brooks
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 15:09:00 Peter Yale
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 18:50:00 Peter Yale
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 13:28:00 Vlod Barchuk
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 16:57:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...24/01/25 10:11:00 Vlod Barchuk
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...24/01/25 12:36:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...27/01/25 09:22:00 Vlod Barchuk
   20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 09:11:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 10:01:00 Peter Yale
         Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 11:22:00 Dominik Klimowski
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 12:34:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 13:33:00 Peter Yale
               Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 16:55:00 Dominik Klimowski
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 17:58:00 N V Brooks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 18:31:00 Peter Yale
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 22:40:00 Dominik Klimowski
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 22:57:00 Simon Hayes
      Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 10:02:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 12:47:00 Ben Owen
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 13:33:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 14:34:00 Ben Owen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 14:54:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 09:55:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 10:02:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 17:46:00 Peter Yale

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