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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...
Posted by: Ben Owen
Date/Time: 21/01/25 10:34:00

Vlod, what I am saying is that there would be no need to explain the benefits of 20 miles per hour if drivers already recognised that their average speed was 20mph anyway.

But, since you so gently asked, how many benefits do you want me to list? Below are some of them, in no particular order but as they come to mind.

Reducing collisions - discussed at length on this thread and elsewhere;

Healthier environment - lower speeds equals lower carbon emissions, improves air quality, and makes streets safer for pedestrians. This point has been made many times!;

Encourages sustainable travel - yes,  believe it or not lower speeds makes roads more inviting for walking, cycling, and public transport. Traffic flows without braking;

Safer for pedestrians - when you are not driving you are a pedestrian. Lower speeds makes it less likely that you will be injured or killed by a driver - a direct benefit to you;

Oh go on then -  20mph roads are safer for cyclists! Not just safer for adults but Sammy too. Sammy, cycling to school, is less likely to be injured or killed. Sammy is someone's son, brother, cousin, friend;

It reduces the dominance of motor vehicles since people are catching on that it can be quicker to cycle or take the bus, when it uses a bus lane!

Increases the amount of fines for driving at inappropriate speeds - nothing can be done where 28mph on a road that has a 30mph speed is way too fast for the conditions. However, the same speed in the same conditions on a 20mph speed limit enhances the chances of a fine, a speed awareness course or points on licence to point out to the driver the error of their ways.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 11:06:00 Paul James
   Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 11:28:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 12:56:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 14:13:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 14:15:00 Peter Yale
   Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 17:39:00 Vlod Barchuk
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 17:59:00 peter king
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:33:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:44:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 20:35:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...18/01/25 23:06:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...19/01/25 10:51:00 peter king
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...19/01/25 11:03:00 Peter Yale
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 14:12:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 14:35:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:22:00 Ben Owen
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:33:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 20:59:00 Peter Yale
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...20/01/25 22:58:00 Ben Owen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 08:53:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 09:44:00 Peter Yale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:37:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 09:41:00 Vlod Barchuk
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:34:00 Ben Owen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:41:00 Peter Yale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:03:00 Ben Owen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:57:00 Peter Yale
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 10:48:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:14:00 Ben Owen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 11:50:00 Simon Hayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 18:09:00 Ben Owen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 20:51:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...21/01/25 21:17:00 Peter Yale
                                          Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 06:15:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 09:32:00 Peter Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 10:32:00 Paul James
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 12:13:00 N V Brooks
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 15:15:00 Peter Yale
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 16:42:00 Paul James
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 17:56:00 N V Brooks
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 13:55:00 Paul James
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 14:03:00 N V Brooks
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 14:53:00 Paul James
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 15:03:00 N V Brooks
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 15:09:00 Peter Yale
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...22/01/25 18:50:00 Peter Yale
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 13:28:00 Vlod Barchuk
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...23/01/25 16:57:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...24/01/25 10:11:00 Vlod Barchuk
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...24/01/25 12:36:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph speed limits in Ealing...27/01/25 09:22:00 Vlod Barchuk
   20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 09:11:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 10:01:00 Peter Yale
         Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 11:22:00 Dominik Klimowski
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 12:34:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 13:33:00 Peter Yale
               Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 16:55:00 Dominik Klimowski
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 17:58:00 N V Brooks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 18:31:00 Peter Yale
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 22:40:00 Dominik Klimowski
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 22:57:00 Simon Hayes
      Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death23/01/25 10:02:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 12:47:00 Ben Owen
            Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 13:33:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 14:34:00 Ben Owen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death24/01/25 14:54:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 09:55:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 10:02:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph greatly reduces chances of serious injury or death25/01/25 17:46:00 Peter Yale

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