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Topic: Re:Re: Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?
Posted by: Chris Veasey
Date/Time: 07/03/11 10:43:00

Sorry, but from what I have repeatedly heard from a variety of punters the overcharging is definitely NOT all due to not 'touching out' (whether by 'forgetting' or -  as you groundlessly accuse all the victims 'not being able to be bothered' to do so).

Just because you (or some others) don't happen to have been cheated by the system's inbuilt bugs, or haven't spotted you've been, doesn't mean that all or even any such cheated punters are at fault. There's a certain element of folk on this chatsite, including some who've chipped in on this thread whose smug attitude to anything seems to be 'I don't have a problem, so if you do it must be your fault'.

And the need to spend time and effort checking afterwards whather you've been cheated or not, and if so to spend further time and effort seeking redress, is something that many suppliers of goods and services -  especially transport providers - rely on to discourage refund requests and hence maximise income (ingoring, as most organisations do - again, especially transport providers - the income they lose through potential punters being put off by hearing of such pernicious practices).

And as I've already pointed out on this thread and previously, unlike the Travelcard system Oyster is inherently cock-eyed in that it charges more for for the inconvenience of having to change buses or changing from bus to train or vice versa en route than for a more convenient journey on which there's no need to change. For most train journeys, once you're on the network you don't have to pass through barriers and 'touch in/out' again when changing trains and hence incur another charge, except at places like Hammersmith where you have to change stations.

As a result, many bus or bus/train journeys can cost more than the train alternative (where the latter meaningfully exists), despite buses generally providing a much lower quality of service and being much less expensive to provide. This applies to cash fares as well as Oyster, but is grossly unfair and unacceptable whichever system, and not something calculated to encourage the use of public transport by those lucky enough to have a realistic alternative means of travel.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Oyster Cards04/03/11 08:36:00 Kevin John Brennan
   Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 09:09:00 Chris Veasey
      Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 10:35:00 George Knox
         Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 10:49:00 Chris Veasey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 11:00:00 George Knox
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 11:14:00 Chris Veasey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 11:44:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 18:22:00 Gerald Cabb
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards04/03/11 19:21:00 Susan Kelly
                           Re:Oyster Cards05/03/11 15:06:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:  Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?06/03/11 17:24:00 Philippa Bond
                                  Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?06/03/11 18:08:00 George Knox
                                    Re: Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 10:17:00 Nigel Brooks
                                       Re:Re: Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 10:43:00 Chris Veasey
                                          Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 12:06:00 George Knox
                                             Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 14:06:00 Chris Veasey
                                                Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 17:11:00 Niall Connolly
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 08:42:00 Kevin John Brennan
                                          Re:Re:Re: Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?07/03/11 13:45:00 Nigel Brooks
                                             Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 08:58:00 George Knox
                                                Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 14:01:00 Gerald Cabb
                                                   Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 14:19:00 Niall Connolly
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 17:59:00 Susan Kelly
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?08/03/11 18:54:00 George Knox
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Oyster Cards: Where have you been caught out?11/03/11 10:42:00 Martyn Faller
   Re:Oyster Cards10/03/11 10:27:00 Kevin John Brennan
      Re:Re:Oyster Cards10/03/11 11:25:00 George Knox
   Re:Oyster Cards adn TFL Refund Vouchers11/03/11 10:57:00 Martyn Faller
      Re:Re:Oyster Cards adn TFL Refund Vouchers11/03/11 11:33:00 Susan Kelly

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