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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people
Posted by: Peter Chadburn
Date/Time: 06/07/18 00:26:00

I find quite a bit of truth in Rosa's analysis. The Euro has crippled Portugal and other countries. We see that people in power see it as a virility symbol but the reality was that peoples savings were devalued overnight and that investment in manufacturing disappeared from Portugal and went east. I know Portuguese people including my partner who see the Euro as a disaster for Portugal. The austerity has been used to punish the poor and in effect the cost of austerity has been to make Portugal/Greece and others unable to invest in making their country more attractive. As a Eurosceptic i view that the Euro whilst being convenient has crippled the countries at the edge of europe and in fact Britain has prospered by not being in it. But where i disagree is that if Europe catches a cold we will get the flu. We should have campaigned with like minded people to reform the EU and to stop the integration project. Russia is circling. Trump is going to damage NATO. The leave campaign of Banks/Farage was backed by Russian money. Trump is a disrupter and Russia was involved in  the US campaigns. Brexit will create great instability within Europe which Russia will love. These are dangerous times. Rosa yes the European project has done a lot of damage because people at the edges are suffering. This also leads to intolerance, anti immigrant prejudice and also the rise of the fascists. Popular consensus is important. I view European cooperation like good neighbours making the community work better. Over time we could end up with common currencies and policies but there are ambitious people that want us to be an unwieldy superstate.

So for me a hard brexit will be a total disaster.


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The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 09:20:00 Andy Jones
   Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 11:35:00 Graham Weeks
      Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:35:00 Paul Scullion
         Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:38:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:41:00 Paul Scullion
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:48:00 Simon Deakin
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 15:48:00 Peter Chadburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 17:44:00 Tricia Arbuthnot
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:23:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 18:28:00 Graham Weeks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 18:26:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 23:18:00 Paul Scullion
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 05:29:00 Graham Weeks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 06:11:00 Colin Goodman
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 06:45:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:20:00 Peter Chadburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:50:00 Graham Weeks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:59:00 Graham Weeks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:05:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:12:00 Graham Weeks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:04:00 Andy Jones
      Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:22:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:30:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 11:01:00 Vlod Barchuk
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 11:28:00 Paul Webster
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 14:33:00 Peter Chadburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:42:00 Andy Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:57:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit02/07/18 13:01:00 Vlod Barchuk
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit02/07/18 16:16:00 Andy Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 09:57:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 09:53:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 11:19:00 Paul Webster
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 11:27:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:23:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 07:27:00 Paul James
   Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:17:00 Nick Foote
      Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 15:01:00 Stuart Green
         Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 18:15:00 Rosa Popham
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:17:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit01/07/18 10:08:00 Andy Jones
               Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 10:00:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 16:33:00 Thelma Leach
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:05:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 10:15:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:09:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 22:52:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 06:28:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 13:45:00 Nick Foote
         Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:42:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:51:00 Graham Weeks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 23:40:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit01/07/18 12:07:00 Peter Yale
               The will of the dead people02/07/18 09:35:00 Graham Southworth
                  Re:The will of the dead people04/07/18 13:51:00 Nick Foote
                     Re:Re:The will of the dead people04/07/18 17:21:00 Graham Weeks
                        Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 11:21:00 Sue Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 12:14:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 14:03:00 Rosa Popham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 16:42:00 Andy Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 00:26:00 Peter Chadburn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 10:13:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 11:11:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 18:52:00 Graham Weeks
                                          Reply10/07/18 10:09:00 Stuart Green
                                             Re:Reply11/07/18 15:58:00 Paul James

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