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Topic: The Will of the People and Brexit
Posted by: Andy Jones
Date/Time: 25/06/18 09:20:00

One thing that really surprised me after the referendum is how polarised and tribal the issue became after the result. Many people had quite fluid views before the vote but afterwards they seem to have become set in stone with a relatively small proportion changing their minds. Most of the polls held since have shown a majority of people now want to Remain but the swing is a result of people having been undecided at the time of the referendum changing their minds.

The most recent Survation poll does suggest that this is starting to change with a 6% gap between Remain and Leave. This was held before the news about Airbus and BMW so that gap is only going to get bigger.

I've had a number of conversations with ardent Leavers in recent weeks in which they have said that they still would vote the same way even though their son's/daughter's, grandson's/granddaughter's employer would be negatively affected by leaving the EU. It occurs to me that many people might be saying this because they don't want to admit an error or to changing their mind after arguing so stridently for one point of view but if they were given the chance again in a live vote rather than a poll they would put the interests of their family members ahead of their desire for vindication. This would mean that the polls currently are significantly understating the swing towards Remain and, if there were a second referendum, the will of the people would clearly be to stay in the EU.

It would really be helpful for someone to explain to me why, given that the will of the British people seems to have decisively changed, that we should be inflicting something on them that is clearly not wanted or in their best interest.





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The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 09:20:00 Andy Jones
   Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 11:35:00 Graham Weeks
      Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:35:00 Paul Scullion
         Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:38:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:41:00 Paul Scullion
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 13:48:00 Simon Deakin
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 15:48:00 Peter Chadburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 17:44:00 Tricia Arbuthnot
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:23:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 18:28:00 Graham Weeks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 18:26:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit25/06/18 23:18:00 Paul Scullion
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 05:29:00 Graham Weeks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 06:11:00 Colin Goodman
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 06:45:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:20:00 Peter Chadburn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:50:00 Graham Weeks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 09:59:00 Graham Weeks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:05:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:12:00 Graham Weeks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 10:04:00 Andy Jones
      Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:22:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit26/06/18 14:30:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 11:01:00 Vlod Barchuk
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 11:28:00 Paul Webster
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit27/06/18 14:33:00 Peter Chadburn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:42:00 Andy Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:57:00 Peter Chadburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit02/07/18 13:01:00 Vlod Barchuk
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit02/07/18 16:16:00 Andy Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 09:57:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 09:53:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 11:19:00 Paul Webster
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 11:27:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:23:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 07:27:00 Paul James
   Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 10:17:00 Nick Foote
      Re:The Will of the People and Brexit28/06/18 15:01:00 Stuart Green
         Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 18:15:00 Rosa Popham
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:17:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit01/07/18 10:08:00 Andy Jones
               Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 10:00:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 16:33:00 Thelma Leach
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:05:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 10:15:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 17:09:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit03/07/18 22:52:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 06:28:00 Graham Weeks
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit04/07/18 13:45:00 Nick Foote
         Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:42:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 22:51:00 Graham Weeks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit30/06/18 23:40:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:The Will of the People and Brexit01/07/18 12:07:00 Peter Yale
               The will of the dead people02/07/18 09:35:00 Graham Southworth
                  Re:The will of the dead people04/07/18 13:51:00 Nick Foote
                     Re:Re:The will of the dead people04/07/18 17:21:00 Graham Weeks
                        Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 11:21:00 Sue Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 12:14:00 Graham Weeks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 14:03:00 Rosa Popham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people05/07/18 16:42:00 Andy Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 00:26:00 Peter Chadburn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 10:13:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 11:11:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The will of the dead people06/07/18 18:52:00 Graham Weeks
                                          Reply10/07/18 10:09:00 Stuart Green
                                             Re:Reply11/07/18 15:58:00 Paul James

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