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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety
Posted by: N V Brooks
Date/Time: 23/06/25 11:21:00

Then why not ask a question instead of fishing.

In may case 20mph limits can make a difference to safely, as example close to schools. However, their blanket imposition is nonsensical as example on dual carriageways with no proximity to housing or social infrastructure.

Using emotive words like powerful and compelling mean nothing without detailed analysis as the good people of Porstmouth found out when the safety improvements realised in a very small number of areas were used as justification for a city-wide 20mph imposition.

Simple, laziness to assume that what works in 'location A' will also work in 'location B' and elsewhere.

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Road safety19/06/25 11:22:00 Ben Owen
   Re:Road safety19/06/25 12:12:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 12:20:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 12:33:00 Ben Owen
            Road safety19/06/25 13:31:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Road safety19/06/25 14:11:00 Peter Yale
                  Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 14:16:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 15:48:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 15:58:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 16:21:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 16:44:00 Steve Chilcott
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 17:52:00 Peter Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 22:07:00 N V Brooks
   Re:Road safety19/06/25 18:47:00 Kevin Wilson
      Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 22:05:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Road safety19/06/25 23:00:00 Peter Yale
         Re:Re:Re:Road safety20/06/25 21:59:00 Peter King
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety20/06/25 22:03:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety20/06/25 22:09:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety21/06/25 10:49:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety21/06/25 20:30:00 Peter Yale
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety21/06/25 20:53:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 02:16:00 Peter Yale
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 10:26:00 Peter Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 12:12:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 13:35:00 Peter Yale
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 14:28:00 Simon Hayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety22/06/25 15:00:00 Peter Yale
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 07:21:00 Ben Owen
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 11:21:00 N V Brooks
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 11:40:00 Paul James
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 11:59:00 N V Brooks
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 12:39:00 N V Brooks
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 13:03:00 Paul James
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 13:27:00 Peter Yale
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 13:39:00 N V Brooks
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 15:54:00 Ben Owen
                                                            Car insurance companies claim 20mph improves road safety23/06/25 16:00:00 Ben Owen
                                                               Re:Car insurance companies claim 20mph improves road safety23/06/25 17:50:00 Peter Yale
                                                               Re:Car insurance companies claim 20mph improves road safety23/06/25 21:29:00 Peter King
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 17:26:00 N V Brooks
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 17:38:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety23/06/25 17:42:00 N V Brooks
                                                                     E-bikes and road safety23/06/25 18:49:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                        Re:E-bikes and road safety23/06/25 23:06:00 Peter Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety24/06/25 08:41:00 Paul James
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety24/06/25 08:44:00 Paul James
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety24/06/25 09:12:00 N V Brooks
                                                                        e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 09:38:00 Ben Owen
                                                                           Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 09:58:00 Peter Yale
                                                                              Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 10:42:00 Paul James
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 17:40:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 18:13:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                           Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 10:33:00 N V Brooks
                                                                              Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 10:43:00 Paul James
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 10:51:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 11:08:00 Paul James
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 11:41:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 15:03:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 15:01:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 15:44:00 Paul James
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 17:10:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety24/06/25 17:26:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 09:13:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 15:22:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 15:32:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 15:49:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 16:00:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 16:16:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 17:41:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                      Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 15:48:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 18:23:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 18:45:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 20:26:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 21:45:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 22:02:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 22:04:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety25/06/25 22:32:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 06:23:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 07:22:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 09:38:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 10:33:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 10:52:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 10:57:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 11:10:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 11:11:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 11:18:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 11:48:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 12:27:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety26/06/25 12:35:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 11:04:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 12:06:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 13:07:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 15:34:00 Paul James
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 16:15:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 18:29:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 18:34:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 19:40:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 20:20:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 20:22:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 21:05:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety27/06/25 21:48:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety29/06/25 17:05:00 Peter Yale
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety30/06/25 08:28:00 Ben Owen
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety30/06/25 08:39:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:e-bikes and road safety30/06/25 09:21:00 Peter Yale
   Re:Road safety01/07/25 13:09:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:Re:Road safety01/07/25 13:56:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Road safety02/07/25 13:27:00 Angela Klimowska
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety02/07/25 19:48:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety02/07/25 23:04:00 Ben Owen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 01:09:00 Peter Yale
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 06:20:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 08:04:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 21:38:00 Charlotte Lester
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 21:59:00 Peter Yale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety03/07/25 22:04:00 Charlotte Lester
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety04/07/25 08:23:00 Angela Klimowska
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety04/07/25 08:50:00 Angela Klimowska
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety04/07/25 09:12:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety04/07/25 23:17:00 Charlotte Lester
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety05/07/25 06:09:00 N V Brooks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety05/07/25 12:19:00 Peter King
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety05/07/25 13:29:00 Peter Tolhust
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Road safety04/08/25 19:10:00 Ben Owen

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