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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 26/12/20 13:03:00

Phillips, I've cycled in this district for all my life and on the road since I was 12.  But Ealing Borough is a very hilly place. Its also very leafy and slippery and has every poor road surfaces.  It has never been a cycling utopia.

Try riding a delivery bike or a trike. Try doing it in the wet or at night.  When cars became affordable to the great unwashed, much to the disdain of the ruling classes, they could not wait to ditch their bikes. Getting cold, wet and sweat soaked year in year out. It was liberation from employers and freedom hitherto affordable to the few.

I cycle all year round, but there are limitations. My work stuff weighs 12KG minimum. It is too heavy and bulky and fragile to safely carry on a bike.  A vehicle is neccessary and my living  is completely reliant of being able to anywhere at anytime.  That is how it is for a great many.

And you have to be fit.

But above all you have to be able to ride a bike safely. That means obeying road signs, using the road safely and following safety laws and etiquette.

It's simply being brushed over and it this rush to ride bikes it has become dangerous to other cyclists and pedestrians. It's not road traffic. Apart from the odd idiot, mother vehicle drivers are tested and laws enforced, right down to lights and wheels being enclosed to protect other road users .

This is all being driven by middle class idealists who clearly don't use much more than laptop computer or purely commute to a fixed work location. Clearly in the belief that physical things only happen by a press of a button on an app and it all happens by magic. and doing very nicely from public coffers by cashing in on the current panic trend.
A mentality that has led to this whole country being dependent on services, consultants and administrators and not particularly good at any of it.

The rest, which is brushed aside is what actually makes a commercial city and nation actually work.

Car ownership in the Greater London area is lower than anywhere else in the UK and has been for quite some years. But we still have ( albeit not currently) overcrowded public transport, very poor road networks and very little local quality employment. People have and will have to travel further to work. Not solvable with a 60 million plus population with 10% of the working age now looking at no work at all?


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle24/12/20 17:34:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle24/12/20 22:17:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle24/12/20 23:01:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle25/12/20 20:51:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle26/12/20 05:14:00 Colin Goodman
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle26/12/20 13:03:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle26/12/20 20:19:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle27/12/20 13:58:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle27/12/20 22:46:00 Philippa Bond
                        Reply06/01/21 15:13:00 Gordon Southwell
                           Re:Reply06/01/21 15:34:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Reply06/01/21 16:20:00 Rosco White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Reply07/01/21 20:13:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Getting Back on Your Bike/Cycle07/01/21 12:53:00 Bettina Margaret Thwaite
                     Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni07/01/21 18:51:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni07/01/21 22:02:00 Rosco White
                           Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni08/01/21 10:54:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni09/01/21 09:46:00 Simon Hayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni09/01/21 09:57:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 09/01/21 21:01:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 09/01/21 22:37:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 10/01/21 20:15:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 10/01/21 21:26:00 Rosco White
                                          Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 11/01/21 09:30:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types 11/01/21 20:28:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni09/01/21 14:02:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni10/01/21 14:59:00 Rosco White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni10/01/21 23:48:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni11/01/21 20:34:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni12/01/21 13:41:00 Simon Hayes
                                          :Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni12/01/21 15:09:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re::Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni12/01/21 17:05:00 Simon Hayes
                                                Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni12/01/21 17:43:00 Rosco White
                                                   Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Rethink Cycles:  Lots of different types eg last ni12/01/21 18:25:00 Simon Hayes
                                                      Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ13/01/21 20:49:00 Philippa Bond
                                                         Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ14/01/21 14:29:00 Simon Hayes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ14/01/21 20:07:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ14/01/21 21:30:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ14/01/21 22:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ14/01/21 23:17:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ15/01/21 13:06:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ15/01/21 15:14:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ16/01/21 11:52:00 Paul James
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: .  LEZ & ULEZ16/01/21 18:16:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                    Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: 16/01/21 22:57:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                       Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: 17/01/21 13:11:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                          Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: 17/01/21 14:08:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                             Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: 18/01/21 10:34:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types: 19/01/21 17:38:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types:  Transport for All25/01/21 23:09:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types:  Transport for All26/01/21 13:54:00 peter king
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Rethink Bikes - there are many types:  Transport for All27/01/21 19:33:00 Philippa Bond

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