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Posted by: Gordon Southwell
Date/Time: 06/07/25 10:11:00

Having read through Dominik posts, I don't think Mark is wrong to conclude that he thinks running a car engine to keep the A/C going in any circumstances is morally unacceptable and he isn't wrong either to challenge the potentially dangerous implications of what could happen if people followed this dictum.

We have had bus drivers refuse to continue driving on local routes over the last week because of the inadequate A/C in their cabs  and they are quite right to do so because an overheated driver presents a risk to everyone. Drivers, particular professional ones like private hire drivers and people doing deliveries should take every precaution to avoid impairment.

While running an engine to keep cool might not be the sin that Dominik thinks it is, it can be an anti-social in normal weather conditions. For a non-electric car there is the issue of noise and, while I have checked and can confirm Mark's contention that the level of pollution in a global context is infinitesimal, it would probably be noticeable if you were standing next to the car or it was parked outside your house. However, people should avoid being judgemental. A few years ago I was waiting in my car to pick up an elderly person to take them to an outpatient appointment. It was very cold rather than very hot so I kept the engine running to maintain the temperature in the car as the passenger was frail and vulnerable to the cold. A man told me to turn the engine off and when I explained the situation to him, he became abusive. I obviously left the engine running as I was past caring about his well-being.




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We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 17:18:00 Rosco White
   Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 17:29:00 Peter Tolhust
   Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 18:07:00 Bill Trenchard
      Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 18:37:00 Bill Trenchard
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 18:40:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 19:41:00 Paul James
      Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 19:43:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 20:21:00 Ben Owen
   Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  01/07/25 21:44:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 02:43:00 Peter Yale
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 09:14:00 Dominik Klimowski
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 09:24:00 Peter Yale
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 11:33:00 Dominik Klimowski
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 11:53:00 Peter Yale
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 12:49:00 Dominik Klimowski
   Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 09:23:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 14:17:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 14:44:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 15:23:00 Dominik Klimowski
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 18:50:00 Rosco White
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 20:13:00 Dominik Klimowski
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 21:30:00 Rosco White
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  02/07/25 22:21:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 11:56:00 Dominik Klimowski
   Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 10:16:00 Mark Evans
      Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 10:45:00 Dominik Klimowski
         Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 11:49:00 Peter Yale
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 13:11:00 Dominik Klimowski
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 14:42:00 Mark Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 15:50:00 Dominik Klimowski
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 16:15:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 19:08:00 Rosco White
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 19:44:00 Dominik Klimowski
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  03/07/25 20:57:00 Rosco White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 09:11:00 Mark Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 11:10:00 Ben Owen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 11:31:00 Rosco White
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 14:18:00 Simon Hayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 11:26:00 Rosco White
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 11:41:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 14:20:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We have become a nation of weak, wet, wimps with all the histrionics about the "heat".  04/07/25 14:23:00 Peter Yale
                                             Reply06/07/25 10:11:00 Gordon Southwell
                                                Re:Reply06/07/25 11:45:00 Paul James
                                                   Re:Re:Reply06/07/25 18:07:00 Peter Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Reply06/07/25 18:56:00 Peter Yale
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Reply07/07/25 11:38:00 Ben Owen
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                                                   Reply07/07/25 12:42:00 Gordon Southwell
                                                      Re:Reply07/07/25 13:45:00 Paul James
                                                         Re:Re:Reply07/07/25 14:39:00 Peter Yale
                                                         Reply08/07/25 08:17:00 Gordon Southwell
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