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Topic: Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS
Posted by: Andy Jones
Date/Time: 11/10/18 14:23:00

'There is strong evidence to show that pedestrians and cyclists spend more than people arriving by cars'

I have seen studies that claim this is the case mainly in justification of a reduction of parking provision but it remains an inescapable fact that if you are buying more than you will carry you will probably drive. Shops that sell things that you can't easily carry will suffer disproportionately and a decline in parking provision is probably one reason why our high streets have so many coffee shops, mobile phone shops and estate agents.

Not owning a car doesn't mean you don't benefit or are not responsible for traffic in the area you live. You will be generating extra deliveries every time you buy something and extra vehicle journeys every time you order a service. I own a car but I would estimate that over 90% of the road journeys my existence generates are ones in which I am not in the vehicle. Therefore it is impossible to divide the population into groups that do and don't benefit from the existence of motorised transport.

With Ealing it is important to distinguish the two types of traffic we have. Most vehicle movements in the area are passing through using the Uxbridge Road. Local policy isn't likely to make much difference here but the ULEZ is going to bring about a significant reduction in traffic as poorer motorists with older cars are priced out.

Local traffic is less of a problem and I don't think squeezing parking space to reduce it is an effective solution. A significant proportion of people do need to use their car to get to the shops, business diversity in the main shopping centre will be hit and those that do need to drive to shop will just drive further so you will be generating more traffic.

Encouraging cycling can help but only at the edges really. The modal shifts it encourages are generally from either walking or public transport. I've taken up cycling again recently encouraged by Mobike in my area but in substitution for journeys I used to walk.

Totally segregated cycling is impossible there will always be junctions and junctions are where the greatest risks occur. While we must do everything we can to reduce accidents we will probably never get to zero on the Uxbridge Road with the technologies we currently have.

The only proven way to make a city more liveable is better and cheaper public transport. We are certainly going to get the latter in Ealing over the next decade and this should bring substantial improvements but for the foreseeable future we are going to have to live with a heavily trafficked and not entirely danger free road running through the centre of town.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS27/09/18 10:44:00 Arthur Breens
   Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS02/10/18 17:20:00 Mark Walker
      Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS03/10/18 18:26:00 Arthur Breens
   Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 09:25:00 Darren Moore
   Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 11:59:00 Paul James
      Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 12:30:00 Ben Owen
         Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 14:23:00 Mark Kehoe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 14:33:00 Paul James
            Re:Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS12/10/18 09:24:00 Darren Moore
         Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 14:23:00 Andy Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:LIVEABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS11/10/18 14:29:00 Paul James
               We need the tram11/10/18 16:56:00 Mark Julian Raymond
                  Re:We need the tram11/10/18 20:19:00 Peter Chadburn
                     Re:Re:We need the tram11/10/18 23:05:00 Mark Julian Raymond
                        Re:Re:Re:We need the tram11/10/18 23:10:00 Peter Chadburn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:We need the tram11/10/18 23:30:00 Mark Julian Raymond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We need the tram12/10/18 06:54:00 Nicholas Beard
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We need the tram12/10/18 09:35:00 Mark Kehoe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We need the tram12/10/18 19:54:00 Mark Julian Raymond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We need the tram12/10/18 19:59:00 Peter Chadburn
               Traffic counts12/10/18 10:34:00 Andy Jones
                  Reply13/10/18 08:35:00 Dennis O'Shea
                     Re:Reply13/10/18 20:24:00 Philip Coe
                        Reply14/10/18 10:15:00 Dennis O'Shea
                           Re:Reply16/10/18 09:51:00 Gordon Southwell
                              Reply16/10/18 11:07:00 Dennis O'Shea
                                 Re:Reply17/10/18 10:36:00 Paul James
                                    Re:Re:Reply17/10/18 11:19:00 Arthur Breens
                                       Oil production has methane gas byproduct which is 20 times worse than carbon dioxide as greenhouse gas17/10/18 12:01:00 Mark Julian Raymond
                                          Buses and pollution17/10/18 17:24:00 Andy Jones
                                             Re:Buses and pollution17/10/18 20:59:00 Paul James
                                                Re:Re:Buses and pollution18/10/18 08:20:00 Andy Jones

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