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Topic: Re:Lammas Park works - Information
Posted by: Simon Hayes
Date/Time: 25/06/25 18:03:00

You have omitted a lot of important and relevant information for your 'database' Dominik. Must be a quiet day for you.

1. No flood risk assessment was carried out by the council, Thames Water or the Environment Agency before the works were signed off. Without that, there's zero justification for the scheme, particularly considering its scale in relation to the rest of the park.

2. No health and safety assessment was carried out by the council. As the authority with responsibility for the park this is a crucial omission, with liability for any accident lying with the council. A belated assessment was carried out in January by RoSPA and it concluded that there were 'serious concerns' about aspects of the scheme. The mitigations carried out by the council - closing a gate from the children's play area and putting some inadequate fencing above the swale pipes, won't prevent anyone falling in.

3. The council failed to get planning permission for the original SuDs at the top end of the park, and has failed to ensure that the correct planning consents for the big scheme currently being 'finessed'. That's a massive oversight and if you think that's acceptable then you must live in some sort of fantasy land.

4. There was no biodiversity study carried out to assess whether the scheme would indeed bring the benefits claimed. Considering these ponds will be empty during low rainfall periods any wildlife or plant life requiring a wetland to survive will have a problem. A study was carried out in December, but wasn't relevant as it fell outside the correct period for carrying out such studies.

5. The costs to residents is more than you state. The works have taken far longer than envisioned and costs have inevitably increased. We also pay Thames Water, or maybe you don't and have a magic well in your back garden.

6. If you think the pdf images from the council will accurately reflect the finished scheme, then you are simply wrong. The soil from the excavations isn't being removed from the park, just redistributed and then smashed down. Go and look up soil compaction if you are so concerned about drainage.

7. The water that flows into these pools during heavy rainfall is not going to be clean. It will be overflow from drains and roads and full of contaminants. There has been no commitment from the council or Thames Water to monitor the cleanliness of the water.

8. The new ditches now pose a risk to those using the area for sports. Plenty of footballs in them now, or is that magically going to stop when they remove the Heras fencing? Maybe you and Cllr Driscoll can volunteer to patrol the park in your Speedos and fish out any balls that go into the ponds to avoid youngsters falling in.

All this has been found out from FoI requests from the council over the past few months and has been published here and elsewhere, though you don't seem to read anything that doesn't tally with your world view.

You see, Dominik, in the real world people might not have opposed this scheme if it was put somewhere that wasn't so inappropriate. It's not there for biodiversity, it's there to enable further massive developments in central Ealing without the need for cash-strapped Thames Water to upgrade or even clean the existing sewer system.

If you are happy that a previously well-used park has now had a major hazard imposed on it, then that says more about your arrogance than anything else you have ever posted.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Lammas Park works - Information25/06/25 11:05:00 Dominik Klimowski
   Re:Lammas Park works - Information25/06/25 18:03:00 Simon Hayes
      Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information25/06/25 18:47:00 Rosco White
         Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information25/06/25 19:08:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information25/06/25 23:11:00 Colin Goodman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information26/06/25 10:15:00 Dominik Klimowski
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information26/06/25 10:27:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information26/06/25 15:01:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information26/06/25 15:08:00 Paul James
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information26/06/25 15:37:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information03/07/25 22:33:00 Charlotte Lester
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information03/07/25 23:47:00 Raymond Havelock
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information04/07/25 23:18:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information06/07/25 09:27:00 Colin Goodman
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lammas Park works - Information06/07/25 11:14:00 Dominik Klimowski

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