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Topic: Ecological damage to Lammas increases
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 08/04/25 12:29:00

A walk around Lammas park with a couple of old friends was a shocker yesterday.  Firstly the smell. Whole place smells toxic but differs in smell and intensity as one walks around.

The amount of midges and flies and it's only April and still rather cold at night.

Another hole dug and operatives struggling to find connections.
Little wonder as the Metropolitan Water Board had issues with incorrect mapping and connections all the way across Northfields and South Ealing and Brentford. Much to do with the closure of The Pumping Station and water facilities at Kew and the Industrial decline of Brentford.

It seems none of the experts and consultants have any idea of this.

Nor it seems has any attempt been made to fully research this and find facts.

Funny that it's not that difficult but it's not all online and there's the rub. If it's not online t'therefore does not exist.

And that why this is now a monumental cock up that has already damaged the wildlife and birdlife that was one of the secrets of this park unless you know it really well.

Quite how local Councillors and officials have managed to dick and dive, manipulate and deceive continuously for almost a full year is absolutely disgusting.


This weekend a fatality occurred in another London Borough with a drowning of a child in a pond.

Yesterday the Police warned about swimming in even shallow water .

And in Ealing Councillors and their minions go on the attack about Nimbyism but are blind to the risks they are promoting.
Principally  deep water and mud right next to children's playgrounds and a Toddler centre.

In a park used by generations of Kids to play safely in.


Something that was not possible in Walpole Park or Gunnersbury Park where 3 local children perished playing on ice in a Pond that was fully fenced off.

The justifications for the works are far from correct. no facts are verifiable and the paper trail is one of confusion and collusion.

It is there to see. Just walk around the place ands see what it is like now and compare to how it was just 11 months ago.
Bereft of all its wildlife.  Many of the rarer birds have been replaced by scavengers,
There are Rats, rather large ones quite visible in the small hours in the peripheral streets, and Foxes everywhere.

How are the animal  faeces going to be controlled in water, the insect larvae / The risk ( increasing ) of malarial and infectious waterborne transmitting insects? Already there's a problem with Horse flies in the park and that was caused by interfering with the local nature balance.

Its is an urban environment with urban living, with more and more intensification with people having no private open space.

This park has never been need more than now. For people to use safely . of any age and predicament. In safety. In health.  And why it existed for over 100 years, for that very purpose.

It is not a cover for additional intense developments - which is the almost certainly the real reason.

The transmission of disease from the great many domestic animals walked in the park?

And what if some soul drowns?

I wonder if the same councillors will accept their responsibility in advance or simple pass the buck and roll out the  "We will consider the lessons learned for the future"

Maybe they and their advisors should look to the not too distant past and this past weekend and learn those lessons fast?


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 12:29:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 14:17:00 Bill Trenchard
      Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 16:11:00 Colin Goodman
         Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 16:20:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 19:48:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 20:37:00 Colin Goodman
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases08/04/25 21:20:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 01:11:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 11:12:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 11:24:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 01:12:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 15:05:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 15:14:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 16:25:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases10/04/25 12:27:00 Colin Goodman
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases10/04/25 12:30:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases09/04/25 16:24:00 N V Brooks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases17/04/25 23:36:00 Charlotte
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases18/04/25 00:16:00 N V Brooks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases18/04/25 21:38:00 Charlotte Lester
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases18/04/25 10:23:00 Peter Yale
                                    ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 13:33:00 Sharon Bewley
                                       Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 14:15:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                          Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 14:29:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 21:32:00 Charlotte Lester
                                       Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 21:40:00 Charlotte Lester
                                          Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:22:00 Simon Hayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:28:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:33:00 Simon Hayes
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:35:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:37:00 Simon Hayes
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:45:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:48:00 Simon Hayes
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:51:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 22:55:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:02:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:07:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:12:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:17:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:18:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:18:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:25:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ITV NEWS REPORT ON LAMMAS PARK18/04/25 23:26:00 Simon Hayes
   Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:27:00 Charlotte Lester
      Re:Re:Ecological damage to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:30:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:36:00 Charlotte Lester
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:40:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:46:00 Charlotte Lester
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:50:00 Charlotte Lester
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:51:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:52:00 Charlotte Lester
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:58:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:02:00 Charlotte Lester
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:55:00 Charlotte Lester
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases18/04/25 23:57:00 Charlotte Lester
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:00:00 Charlotte Lester
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:07:00 Simon Hayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:10:00 Charlotte Lester
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:14:00 Charlotte Lester
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:15:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:19:00 Charlotte Lester
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:25:00 Simon Hayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:33:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:36:00 Simon Hayes
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:42:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:46:00 Simon Hayes
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:50:00 Charlotte Lester
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:52:00 Simon Hayes
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ecological damage lies  to Lammas increases19/04/25 00:54:00 Charlotte Lester
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