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Topic: Re:Boris's Dilemma
Posted by: Leslie Bailey
Date/Time: 03/09/19 10:53:00

The way I see it, the mess Johnson inherited was down to Parliament openly revolting on the people and the promise both Government and Official Opposition made on 2017.

When they both agreed to sign Article 50 they knew it's legislation said all treaties cease two years later "With or Without a deal in place", so both side then openly promised exactly that on TV, "With or Without a deal we will leave on 29th March at 2300 hours. There are plenty of videos still online showing Tory and Labour remainers promising this.
When the date came T. May (who did not want to leave) allowed the opposition to carry the blame for revolting against those promises. From then on, Parliament is in open revolt against it's own people by tearing up the promises and Laws put in place following the biggest Mandate in UK history.
Then came the remainer's calls for a second referendum, despite the original 2016 one carrying the "There can be NO Second Referendum" as one of it's terms (as told to the people by Cameron on TV).
As the original deadline was for "With or Without a Deal" there really was no valid reason to not leave in March.
Now we Have a split political system with most MPs and Lords determined to revolt against the people, and just a few including the PM insisting the People's Mandate must be carried out and siding with the people.

Now the opposition and remainers have tagged Boris and the leavers as fascists, far right etc, even now attacking the Queen for Proroguing Parliament, we now see on the leave side Forces Veterans and many still serving as well as 1000s of others reaching boiling point.
All wanting to fight for the original scenario of there being no deal on the table at 2300hrs on 29/3/2019, as that was the Parliament's promise to it's people.

To those on the leave side, the opposition has led this revolt against the British People, fanning the flames of resentment among the left to take to the streets to try and overturn the People's Mandate. The leavers are now organising their own demonstrations to counter those of the remain/left wing.
Talk now is of a Civil War with people openly talking of spilling their own blood in order to get what was promised in March 2017, but the opposition took away from them despite the Mandate and Promises.

We might all laugh at Boris Johnson, but he is one of a very few who has chosen to side with the people's mandate, and hopefully restore some trust in our politicians, as right now, Laws, Promises and Pledges coming from Parliament and MPs mean absolutely nothing. and all because Parliament, in Particular the opposition parties chose to go into open revolt against the mandate of the people, a mandate they themselves asked the people for, and a mandate they themselves promised to carry out in March 2019.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Boris's Dilemma02/09/19 20:49:00 Gordon Southwell
   Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 10:10:00 Tricia Arbuthnot
      Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 10:41:00 Andy Jones
   Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 10:53:00 Leslie Bailey
      Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 11:23:00 Andy Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 11:33:00 Leslie Bailey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 13:24:00 N V Brooks
               Reply03/09/19 14:12:00 Gordon Southwell
                  Re:Reply03/09/19 14:36:00 N V Brooks
                     Reply03/09/19 14:50:00 Gordon Southwell
                        Re:Reply03/09/19 15:15:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 13:25:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 14:54:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 17:37:00 Paul James
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 17:41:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma03/09/19 18:25:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 00:56:00 Leslie Bailey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 09:32:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 10:19:00 Leslie Bailey
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 12:12:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 15:39:00 Peter Chadburn
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma04/09/19 19:20:00 Leslie Bailey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 10:35:00 Paul James
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 11:45:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 12:16:00 Paul James
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 15:19:00 John Bergin
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 16:10:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma20/09/19 23:01:00 Brian Conneller
   Re:Boris's Dilemma05/09/19 18:21:00 Martin Cain
      Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma06/09/19 00:34:00 Leslie Bailey
         Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma08/09/19 17:46:00 Peter Chadburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 08:35:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 09:13:00 Graham Weeks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 10:51:00 Leslie Bailey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 11:38:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 11:39:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 11:40:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 11:41:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 12:00:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma09/09/19 18:15:00 Peter Chadburn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma10/09/19 10:33:00 Leslie Bailey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma10/09/19 13:03:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma10/09/19 16:24:00 Paul James
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma20/09/19 16:29:00 Andy Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma20/09/19 17:55:00 Peter Chadburn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris's Dilemma24/09/19 13:29:00 Simon Hayes

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