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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 01/03/22 09:04:00

The cost of a driverless train operation on the rather old underground network has been mooted several times. And tested as long ago as the 1960s on a bit of the Central Line and of course exemplified by the Victoria Line. However they were designed from the start to be automated. Very little of the rest of the network can be automated without huge risks and massive alterations and infrastructure changes.  Just look at the 'custom' built Elizabeth Line.  £millionss added because of TfL interference and a classic case of too many cooks and a generous fistful of  advisors.  To try this with a much older network will cost far, far more.

Even costings for basic surface branch lines is way beyond feasible.

It would be cheaper to have drivers and guards for 50 years than. This

Plus more local based jobs lost so there will be the need for more to have to drive or travel further to make a living.

It is possible but the sheer cost and upheaval would far exceed the wage bill of operating staff for decades and the infrastructure would not pay itself back before it too would need replacing or upgrading.

It's typical politicians and consultants who know diddly squat about the subject other than what they see on spreadsheets and from reports tailored to suit policy.


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Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel28/02/22 17:13:00 Paul Richard James
   Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel28/02/22 17:26:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel28/02/22 18:52:00 Terry Freestone
   Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel28/02/22 17:43:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel28/02/22 19:07:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel01/03/22 09:04:00 Raymond Havelock
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel01/03/22 09:26:00 Colin Goodman
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Government Demands Driverless Trains and More Active Travel01/03/22 10:50:00 Simon Hayes
               Reply03/03/22 11:20:00 Christine Mulligan
                  Re:Reply03/03/22 11:35:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Reply03/03/22 14:18:00 Bettina Margaret Thwaite
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply03/03/22 14:30:00 Simon Hayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply04/03/22 17:36:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply05/03/22 09:08:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:  The London Plan06/03/22 11:17:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:  The London Plan06/03/22 11:46:00 N V Brooks
                                 Re:Re:  The London Plan06/03/22 11:55:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:  The London Plan06/03/22 16:56:00 Philippa Bond

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