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Topic: Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases
Posted by: Chris Veasey
Date/Time: 19/10/09 08:32:00

"He is also abandoning the Western congestion zone, which is a barmy decision at the moment."

-  as I recall, the western congestion zone was foisted on the area by the previous arrogant and dicatatorial london mayor who ignored the substantial majority opposition by the area's people, with the help of some equally insufferably arrogant senior transport professional TfL staff.

So for the current mayor to ectify that outrage by removing the zone is just a belated fulfilment of a debt of honour. What part of the word 'democracy' is it you don't understand?

Compare and contrast that sorry story with the Greater Manchester situation, where the people's resounding vote against a congestion charge -  many of them (correctly) believed if they voted for it they'd be lumbered with the charge but would be cheated out of the public transport improvements to which it was meant to be linked  -  was respected by the local political leaders, who while not happy at this public rejection of a scheme they'd capmaigned so hard for, respected the people's view, dropped the plan and are now constructively working on an alternative strategy more in line with the people's preferences.

I agree with your concerns re the swingeing fare hikes, particularly as the quality of many aspects of the services, particularly bus, leaves much to be desired. But try sampling public transport services anywhere outside London, which mostly do not enjoy the massive public subsidies -  nor the comprehensive public regulation  -  London's services do, and see how the majority of this country's people live.


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Mayor's outrageous fare increases16/10/09 18:15:00 Ali Khan
   Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases16/10/09 20:06:00 Jamie Smith
      Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases16/10/09 23:05:00 Alan Brainsby
         Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 08:57:00 Chris Veasey
         Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases21/10/09 11:52:00 Tony Colliver
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases21/10/09 14:30:00 Alan Brainsby
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases22/10/09 13:59:00 Tony Colliver
         Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases12/11/09 00:44:00 Damaris Lakin
   Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 08:32:00 Chris Veasey
      Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 14:50:00 Peter Chadburn
      Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 22:20:00 Ali Khan
         Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 22:47:00 Chris Veasey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases19/10/09 23:21:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases20/10/09 07:48:00 Chris Veasey
         Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases @ Ali20/10/09 09:06:00 Ed Yelland
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases @ Ali20/10/09 11:25:00 Peter Chadburn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases @ Ali21/10/09 18:42:00 Ali Khan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases @ Ali21/10/09 19:44:00 Alan Brainsby
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mayor's outrageous fare increases @ Ali22/10/09 11:41:00 Eric Alan Leach
                        Freedom Pass at risk?12/11/09 01:41:00 George Knox
                           Re:Freedom Pass at risk?12/11/09 06:12:00 Eric Alan Leach
                              Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?12/11/09 20:30:00 Alan Brainsby
                                 Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 05:38:00 Eric Alan Leach
                                 Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 08:14:00 Chris Veasey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:08:00 Alan Brainsby
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:24:00 Chris Veasey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:34:00 Alan Brainsby
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:57:00 Chris Veasey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:38:00 Alan Brainsby
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:55:00 Chris Veasey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 23:59:00 Alan Brainsby
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?14/11/09 09:05:00 Chris Veasey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 12:42:00 Tony Wood
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 13:46:00 Chris Veasey
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 14:39:00 Robert Darke
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 15:11:00 Tony Wood
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 15:26:00 Chris Veasey
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 17:10:00 Tony Wood
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 18:41:00 Chris Veasey
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 19:57:00 Tony Wood
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 20:02:00 Chris Veasey
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?14/11/09 10:29:00 Tony Wood
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?14/11/09 10:44:00 Alan Brainsby
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?15/11/09 08:47:00 Tony Wood
                              Re:Re:Freedom Pass at risk?13/11/09 22:16:00 Alan Brainsby

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