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Posted by: Gordon Southwell
Date/Time: 15/04/21 13:52:00

Paul, it wasn't my attempt to belittle you but you do create the impression that you feel that part of the problem is the moral deficiency of others. You say you are pro-clean air and safer roads and anti-congestion as if only those of your views could claim to be likewise. 

On the issue of supermarket deliveries, I don't think either of us knows the answer for sure. The van, which generally isn't electric, delivers on the basis of time order was made rather than geographical proximity rather than the time the order was made so almost definitely drives further and spends longer on the road than the 20 individual cars that would have done if the shopping was collected personally. It seems to me a reasonable assumption that if, the delivery van alternative is diesel, I am improving local air quality by driving to the shops. The broader point here is that these issues are very complex and simplistic solutions are often counterproductive.

Whatever the draw back of buses they are an essential part of public transport particularly in the way many lower income groups are dependent on them. A better more reliable network has significant potential to encourage people to switch from using cars, unfortunately bus usage and service levels have been falling in London prior to the pandemic. Locally after the pandemic the service won't be helped by direction of more traffic onto distributor roads which also are nearly always bus routes. This is likely to lead a significant number of people electing not to revert back to bus travel from using their car.

I don't know if you are familiar with Gunnersbury Park but the parking capacity on site is not what people are concerned about, it is the access road to the car park which is long, narrow and single file. If cars enter off Popes Lane and other vehicles are exiting the car park at the same time there is a potential for it to become logjammed. The vehicle usage of the park is set to grow significantly when the sports hub and related facilities are up to full capacity.




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Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 12:08:00 Mark Evans
   Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 13:38:00 peter king
      Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 15:02:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 16:29:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 16:31:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 16:38:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 17:03:00 Simon Hayes
         Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 17:12:00 Susan Kelly
         Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 18:25:00 Peter Yale
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub14/04/21 19:05:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 10:03:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 09:55:00 Paul James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 10:07:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 10:30:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 11:22:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 11:50:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub15/04/21 12:07:00 Simon Hayes
                     Reply15/04/21 12:06:00 Gordon Southwell
                        Re:Reply15/04/21 12:30:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Reply15/04/21 12:52:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 11:09:00 Paul James
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 13:22:00 Simon Hayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 14:59:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 17:33:00 Simon Hayes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 17:46:00 Tricia Arbuthnot
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/04/21 18:18:00 Simon Hayes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/04/21 12:13:00 Paul James
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/04/21 13:40:00 Simon Hayes
                           Reply15/04/21 13:52:00 Gordon Southwell
                              Re:Reply16/04/21 10:29:00 Mark Evans
                                 Re:Re:Reply16/04/21 11:44:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:  Delivery vehicles and methods are changing...18/04/21 20:23:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub18/04/21 16:49:00 Michael Adams
      Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub18/04/21 20:32:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub18/04/21 22:25:00 Michael Adams
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub19/04/21 12:29:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub19/04/21 15:29:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Park Car Park Access and the Sports Hub20/04/21 10:29:00 Raymond Havelock

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